Comments on: Linking to Wikipedia is lazy and a disservice to someone else who really deserves the link! http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/ Changing the world. One blog(ger) at a time. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:19:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: 8 Common Sense Tips For Writing Clean Wordpress Blog Posts | Custom Wordpress Theme Design http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-17700 8 Common Sense Tips For Writing Clean Wordpress Blog Posts | Custom Wordpress Theme Design Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:48:36 +0000 http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-17700 [...] rarely link to Wikipedia, especially ever since I read Alister Cameron’s arguments. The article gives some common sense advice, that I really think you should read at some [...] [...] rarely link to Wikipedia, especially ever since I read Alister Cameron’s arguments. The article gives some common sense advice, that I really think you should read at some [...]

]]> By: Joe12Pak_9 http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-14839 Joe12Pak_9 Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:27:29 +0000 http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-14839 OK, it's an old post, but I wouldn't have got to to your site if it wasn't for Wikipedia (in a roundabout Steve Blass sort of way) Cheers, Joe OK, it’s an old post, but I wouldn’t have got to to your site if it wasn’t for Wikipedia (in a roundabout Steve Blass sort of way)

Cheers,
Joe

]]> By: Lazar http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-11297 Lazar Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:29:11 +0000 http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-11297 I made few grammar mistakes above: StumbleUpon not only ‘trusts’ -> StumbleUpon not only does not ‘trusts’ 'It will put on all links' -> 'It will put nofollow on all links' I made few grammar mistakes above:

StumbleUpon not only ‘trusts’ -> StumbleUpon not only does not ‘trusts’

‘It will put on all links’ -> ‘It will put nofollow on all links’

]]> By: Lazar http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-11296 Lazar Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:25:19 +0000 http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-11296 Another thing: How arrogant is this, StumbleUpon not only 'trusts' sites its users bookmark, but it does not trust users homepages, you know, that one tiny link that 2 million users have on their stumble profile page. They are so possessive with their PageRank. Same is with YouTube, which is in a way even worse, because YouTube users really invest effort, thought, creativity, time, sometimes money, to make those home videos, and post them, and YouTube doesn't even honor them with a 'trust' link to their homepage, but puts nofollow even on that one link. And almost all other major big sites are the same. I was (and still am) so furious about this that I made a nofollow-reciprocity plugin: http://www.inverudio.com/programs/WordPressBlog/NofollowReciprocity.php It will put nofollow on all links in your blog to these sites, like that one to Wikipedia that you have in your post. Another thing:

How arrogant is this, StumbleUpon not only ‘trusts’ sites its users bookmark, but it does not trust users homepages, you know, that one tiny link that 2 million users have on their stumble profile page. They are so possessive with their PageRank.

Same is with YouTube, which is in a way even worse, because YouTube users really invest effort, thought, creativity, time, sometimes money, to make those home videos, and post them, and YouTube doesn’t even honor them with a ‘trust’ link to their homepage, but puts nofollow even on that one link.

And almost all other major big sites are the same.

I was (and still am) so furious about this that I made a nofollow-reciprocity plugin:

http://www.inverudio.com/programs/WordPressBlog/NofollowReciprocity.php

It will put nofollow on all links in your blog to these sites, like that one to Wikipedia that you have in your post.

]]> By: Lazar http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-11295 Lazar Fri, 30 Nov 2007 12:18:48 +0000 http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-11295 I think that this Google/Yahoo/MSN 'nofollow' initiative in cooperation with Typepad, Blogger, YouTube and other major social platforms is one of the worst things going on on the internet. Wikipedia is definitely one of the best sites out there, but it does not deserve to be on top for every other search query. Default 'nofollow' use on most major user build websites in combination with increased use of these sites results in their huge PageRank (and SERP) boost. This is enormously helped with the use of social bookmarking buttons. I suggest everyone to use Andy's 'Antisocial' plugin for WordPress, and similar if any for other platforms. I write more about this at several places, but here is the main one with more links: http://seolutions.net/blog/nofollow-monstrosity I think that this Google/Yahoo/MSN ‘nofollow’ initiative in cooperation with Typepad, Blogger, YouTube and other major social platforms is one of the worst things going on on the internet. Wikipedia is definitely one of the best sites out there, but it does not deserve to be on top for every other search query.

Default ‘nofollow’ use on most major user build websites in combination with increased use of these sites results in their huge PageRank (and SERP) boost. This is enormously helped with the use of social bookmarking buttons. I suggest everyone to use Andy’s ‘Antisocial’ plugin for WordPress, and similar if any for other platforms.

I write more about this at several places, but here is the main one with more links:

http://seolutions.net/blog/nofollow-monstrosity

]]> By: Greg http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-11242 Greg Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:06:04 +0000 http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-11242 It is annoying to see wikipedia outrank your site on just about every term. I did want to point out that you didn't link to any of the sites you thought should rank, but you did link to the wikipedia yourself. I thought this was funny. It is annoying to see wikipedia outrank your site on just about every term. I did want to point out that you didn’t link to any of the sites you thought should rank, but you did link to the wikipedia yourself. I thought this was funny.

]]> By: Bret heart bobby http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-10373 Bret heart bobby Wed, 31 Oct 2007 06:54:53 +0000 http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-10373 One major reason I reference Wikipedia is due to the fact that I can count on the link being active in years to come......There's nothing more annoying than having to deal with rotten links or pages whose content changed..... But I agree, I am not helping deserving sites... One major reason I reference Wikipedia is due to the fact that I can count on the link being active in years to come……There’s nothing more annoying than having to deal with rotten links or pages whose content changed…..
But I agree, I am not helping deserving sites…

]]> By: fortyplustwo | Blogging Medley http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-9202 fortyplustwo | Blogging Medley Sat, 15 Sep 2007 15:50:56 +0000 http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-9202 [...] Cameron writes that Linking to Wikipedia is lazy and a disservice to someone else who really deserves the link!. I often link to Wikipedia but have lots of links to other blogs and sites too. Last 5 posts in [...] [...] Cameron writes that Linking to Wikipedia is lazy and a disservice to someone else who really deserves the link!. I often link to Wikipedia but have lots of links to other blogs and sites too. Last 5 posts in [...]

]]> By: mlankton http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-9087 mlankton Sat, 08 Sep 2007 16:19:27 +0000 http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-9087 Wikipedia is a great resource for linking to a term or thing that you are not taking the time to explain because it's assumed most readers can follow. You still give someone who doesn't know a chance to learn and then follow the article. Wikipedia is a great resource for linking to a term or thing that you are not taking the time to explain because it’s assumed most readers can follow. You still give someone who doesn’t know a chance to learn and then follow the article.

]]> By: Des Walsh http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-8967 Des Walsh Sun, 02 Sep 2007 02:17:06 +0000 http://www.alistercameron.com/2007/07/13/linking-to-wikipedia-is-lazy-and-a-disservice-to-someone-else-who-really-deserves-the-link/#comment-8967 Something curious about the dating of the trackbacks showing up here - all as 7 years, 9 months ago. Dr Who at work? Something curious about the dating of the trackbacks showing up here - all as 7 years, 9 months ago. Dr Who at work?

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